This is a very interesting question. The thought that would probably cross your mind is if God created everything, then God created evil as well. Well, evil is not a THING, it is rather a CHARACTERISTIC/ATTRIBUTE. Evil is simply the absence of good. Let me illustrate this with an interesting conversation in a philosophy class.
"LET ME EXPLAIN THE problem science has with Jesus Christ." The atheist professor of philosophy pauses before his class and then asks one of his new students to stand. "You're a Christian, aren't you, son?"
"Yes, sir."
"So you believe in God?"
"Absolutely."
"Is God good?"
"Sure! God's good."
"Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?"
"Yes."
"Are you good or evil?"
"The Bible says I'm evil."
The professor grins knowingly. "Ahh! THE BIBLE!" He considers for a moment. "Here's one for you. Let's say there's a sick person over here and you can cure him. You can do it. Would you help them? Would you try?"
"Yes sir, I would."
"So you're good...!"
"I wouldn't say that."
"Why not say that? You would help a sick and maimed person if you could...in fact most of us would if we could....God doesn't."
[No answer]
"He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who died of cancer even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him. How is this Jesus good? Hmmm? Can you answer that one?"
[No answer]
The elderly man is sympathetic. "No, you can't, can you?" He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk to give the student time to relax. "In philosophy, you have to go easy with the new ones. Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?"
"Er... Yes."
"Is Satan good?"
"No."
"Where does Satan come from?"
The student falters. "From... God..."
"That's right. God made Satan, didn't he?" The elderly man runs his bony fingers through his thinning hair and turns to the smirking student audience. "I think we're going to have a lot of fun this semester, ladies and gentlemen." He turns back to the Christian. "Tell me, son. Is there evil in this world?"
"Yes, sir."
"Evil's everywhere, isn't it? Did God make everything?"
"Yes."
"Who created evil?"
[No answer]
"Is there sickness in this world? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness. All the terrible things - do they exist in this world? "
The student squirms on his feet. "Yes."
"Who created them?"
[No answer]
The professor suddenly shouts at his student, "WHO CREATED THEM? TELL ME, PLEASE!" The professor closes in for the kill and climbs into the Christian's face. In a still small voice, he asked, "God created all evil, didn't He, son?"
[No answer]
The student tries to hold the steady, experienced gaze and fails. Suddenly the lecturer breaks away to pace the front of the classroom like an aging panther. The class is mesmerized. "Tell me," he continues, "How is it that this God is good if He created all evil throughout all time?" The professor swishes his arms around to encompass the wickedness of the world. "All the hatred, the brutality, all the pain, all the torture, all the death and ugliness and all the suffering created by this good God is all over the world, isn't it, young man?"
[No answer]
"Don't you see it all over the place? Huh?" Pause. "Don't you?" The professor leans into the student's face again and
whispers, "Is God good?"
[No answer]
"Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?"
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. "Yes, professor. I do."
The old man shakes his head sadly. "Science says you have five senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Have you ever seen Jesus?"
"No, sir. I've never seen Him."
"Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?"
"No, sir. I have not."
"Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt your Jesus... in fact, do you have any sensory perception of your God whatsoever?"
[No answer]
"Answer me, please."
"No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't."
"You're AFRAID... you haven't?"
"No, sir."
"Yet you still believe in him?"
"...yes..."
"That takes FAITH!" The professor smiles sagely at the underling. "According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son? Where is your God now?"
[The student doesn't answer]
"Sit down, please."
The first Christian sits...defeated.
Another Christian raises his hand. "Professor, may I address the class?"
The professor turns and smiles. "Ah, yet another Christian in the vanguard! Come, come, young man. Speak some proper wisdom to the gathering."
The Christian looks around the room. "Some interesting points you are making, sir. Now I've got a question for you. Is there such thing as heat?"
"Yes," the professor replies. "There's heat."
"Is there such a thing as cold?"
"Yes, son, there's cold too."
"No, sir, there isn't."
The professor's grin freezes. The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The second Christian continues.
"You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have anything called 'cold'. We can hit 273 degrees below zero, which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold, otherwise we would be able to go colder than -273°C. You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it."
Silence. A pin drops somewhere in the classroom.
"Is there such a thing as darkness, professor?"
"That's a dumb question, son. What is night if it isn't darkness? What are you getting at...?"
"So you say there is such a thing as darkness?"
"Yes..."
"You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something, it is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light... but if you have no light constantly you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to define the word. In reality, Darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness darker and give me a jar of it. Can you... give me a jar of darker darkness, professor?"
Despite himself, the professor smiles at the young effrontery before him. This will indeed be a good semester. "Would you mind telling us what your point is, young man?"
"Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to start with and so your conclusion must be in error...."
The professor goes toxic. "Flawed...? How dare you...!"
"Sir, may I explain what I mean?"
The class is all ears.
"Explain... ohhhhh, explain..." The professor makes an admirable effort to regain control. Suddenly he is affability himself. He waves his hand to silence the class, for the student to continue.
"You are working on the premise of duality," the Christian explains. "That for example there is life and then there's death; a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science cannot even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism but has never seen, much less fully understood them. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, merely the absence of it." The young man holds up a newspaper he takes from the desk of a neighbor who has been reading it. "Here is one of the most disgusting tabloids this country hosts, professor. Is there such a thing as immorality?"
"Of course there is, now look..."
"Wrong again, sir. You see, immorality is merely the absence of morality. Is there such thing as injustice? No. Injustice is the absence of justice. Is there such a thing as evil?" The Christian pauses. "Isn't evil the absence of good?"
The professor's face has turned an alarming color. He is so angry he is temporarily speechless.
The Christian continues, "If there is evil in the world, professor, and we all agree there is, then God, if He exists, must be accomplishing a work through the agency of evil.1 What is that work God is accomplishing? The Bible tells us it is to see if each one of us will, of our own free will, choose good over evil."2
The professor bridles. "As a philosophical scientist, I don't view this matter as having anything to do with any choice; as a realist, I absolutely do not recognize the concept of God or any other theological factor as being part of the world equation because God is not observable."
The Christian replies, "I would have thought that the absence of God's moral code in this world is probably one of the most observable phenomena going, Newspapers make billions of dollars reporting it every week! Tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?"
"If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, young man, yes, of course I do."
"Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?"
The professor makes a sucking sound with his teeth and gives his student a silent, stony stare.
"Professor. Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now not a scientist, but a preacher?"
"I'll overlook your impudence in the light of our philosophical discussion. Now, have you quite finished?" the professor hisses.
"So you don't accept God's moral code to do what is righteous?"
"I believe in what is - that's science!"
"Ahh! SCIENCE!" the student's face splits into a grin. "Sir, you rightly state that science is the study of observed phenomena. Science too is a premise which is flawed..."
"SCIENCE IS FLAWED..?" the professor splutters.
The class is in uproar. The Christian remains standing until the commotion has subsided. "To continue the point you were making earlier to the other student, may I give you an example of what I mean?"
The professor wisely keeps silent.
The Christian looks around the room. "Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's mind?" The class breaks out into laughter. The Christian points towards his elderly, crumbling tutor. "Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's mind... felt the professor's mind, touched o smelt the professor's mind? No one appears to have done so." The Christian shakes his head sadly. "It appears no one here has had any sensory perception of the professor's mind whatsoever. Well, according to the rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science, I DECLARE that the professor has no mind."
The class is in chaos.
The Christian sits.
In Conclusion, evil is not created by God. God has rather allowed evil. God has given Man, something called freewill. This allows Man to choose between good and evil. God didn't create robots but men and women with a choice to do good or evil.
THOUGHT: God didn't create evil. God created Man in his own likeness with the choice of doing good or evil.
8 comments:
Right. First off, I'm certain this is a rip off from some website, or an off-shoot of the "Einstein trumps professor" shtick. And that too never occurred;it was merely conjured up as an internet gag. Secondly, these stories always use an arrogant atheist professor instead of a religious professor trying to question the basis of his faith and to (in general) expand the thought process of his students.
My question is assuming a God exists and he gave us free will to decide and live as we see fit, why does he condemn us to an eternity of hellfire for practising the free will that he gave us? If I choose to be evil (Muhahahaha!!), I am simply exercising a right that God has bestowed upon me. So what right does God have to judge me? If he made us all unconditionally good, the concept of evil never arises and God is not in a comprising position to pass judgement on us. Instead he gives us powers of franchise and punishes us for voting!!
Next, please check your facts before writing them. Evolution HAS occurred in the life span of human beings. Richard Lenski carried out an experiment with E. coli bacteria for over a decade and found that isolated strains developed mutations and "evolved" to adapt citric acid for its growth. Therefore evolution has been observed before "our very eyes" and cannot be discarded. It is a solid theory with evidence to support it. I should mock the Creationist museum in Kansas that holds onto the thought of a 6000 year old Earth created by the god of the Old Testament and that Adam and Eve rode around on dinosaurs, but they've been ridiculed so much, it isn't even funny anymore.
(contd).
Finally, the professor's "mind" although cannot be seen directly,can be visualized using fMRI, his intellect can be observed and noted by asking him questions, his reflexes can be measured and so forth. God on the other hand cannot be seen or "measured" or even summoned by the most devout.
In conclusion, God is a manufactured human ideology that seeks to impose its moral policing and simultaneously influence our thought process and behaviour, while trying (not very well) to explain the origins of our world and what goes on in it. We are no longer primitive simians; we have science to show us the truth. Cheers if you have managed to bear with me this far.
Dear Anonymous,
Let me first explain another reason why God gave us 'free will'.
If you love someone, you don't love on the basis of a sense of moral obligation. You love not out someone's compulsion. Love is something that sprouts out of the very nature of the relationship in question.
Christianity teaches that God is love. Hence He created human beings who were capable of loving Him. If they were to have this ability, God would have to give them 'free will'. Why? For the simple reason that love cannot be coerced. It has to come out of one's will. One has to choose to love.
But man misused this free will in choosing to sin. God cannot be blamed for this as He clearly stated that the consequence of choosing to sin is death.
'So what right does God have to judge me'. In every country, there is a system of government that passes laws. This same system of government also punishes anyone who goes against these laws. If you respect the authority of the rulers of the land, why not accept the authority of the ruler of the Universe to judge anyone who transgresses His laws?
Your argument on the 'right of franchise' is based on a completely different context. Doing good and evil is not a matter of franchise. If that were the case, then in a democracy, being a civil servant or a criminal would also be a matter of 'franchise'.
God is a God willing to forgive. We have time to confess our sins and obtain his forgiveness. But there is an eternity which is a consequence of whether we have made this choice to confess our sin or not. So why condemn people to hell? Well God by nature cannot co-exist with sin for He is Holy. It is a matter of God's nature, which cannot be changed.
About your point on evolution, I need to do some more homework as I am not a biologist by qualification. Spare me on that. :)
Cheers.
Dear Anonymous,
I would like to comment on your statement: 'God on the other hand cannot be seen or "measured" or even summoned by the most devout'.
Being a Christian is about having a relationship with God. This relationship begins when one accepts Jesus Christ as His personal Saviour. This experience requires a open heart that would allow God to work. The Bible asks us to 'taste and see'(not literally) rather experience God in our lives. A closed heart cannot simply experience him!
Cheers!
Good work Juvin :)
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